2012 Errors

[Royce R]

AFFL Ten/NE game. 3rd quarter penalty costs 0 yards?

11:18 | 4 and 12 @ 36 (36)... Brad Maynard punts the ball 16 yards
Backup Player returns the ball 1 yards.
10:49 | 1 and 10 @ 21 (21)... Penalty on Tennessee.
10:18 | 1 and 10 @ 21 (21)... Javon Ringer runs for -3 yards (2-2yds | 1 ave:3.3).


CFFL Dal/NYG - 1st quarter sack gives no loss of down or yards.

12:10 | 4 and 6 @ 34 (66)... Ryan Donahue punts the ball 34 yards
Ted Ginn returns the ball 4 yards.
11:49 | 1 and 10 @ 36 (36)... Dallas defense gets the sack!
11:44 | 1 and 10 @ 36 (36)... Matt Forte runs for 6 yards (1-6yds | 6 ave:6).
11:13 | 2 and 4 @ 42 (42)... Joe McKnight runs for 5 yards (1-5yds | 5 ave:4).


AFFL Dal/NYG 1st play of game, no loss of yards on penalty

The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the -2, returned to 20.
14:55 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Penalty on NY Giants.
14:32 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Maurice Morris runs for 4 yards (1-4yds | 4 ave:1.7).


AFFL DAL/NYG 1st quarter sack no loss of down or yards

The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the 2, returned to 20.
7:16 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)...
7:16 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Dallas defense gets the sack!
7:04 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Incomplete pass.
6:57 | 2 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Michael Vick (3-for-7 20 yds | 43%:37) passes complete to Jacob Tamme for 6 yards.

[Royce R]

AFFL Mia/Hou - 1st quarter sack no loss of down or yards


13:51 | 1 and 10 @ 21 (79)... Miami defense gets the sack!
13:46 | 1 and 10 @ 21 (79)... Matt Schaub (1-for-1 15 yds | 100%:64) passes complete to Calvin Johnson for 15 yards.
13:20 | 1 and 6 @ 6 (94)... Schaub throws a 6 yard TOUCHDOWN to Calvin Johnson!


AFFL Mia/Hou - right before halftime sack, not sure if it was messed up or not

Julian Edelman returns the ball 4 yards.
0:03 | 1 and 10 @ 40 (40)... Miami defense gets the sack!
0:00 | 1 and 10 @ 40 (40)...


AFFL Jac/Min - 1st quarter sack..


Here's a 27 fieldgoal attempt... MISS!
4:53 | 1 and 10 @ 17 (17)... Jacksonville defense gets the sack!
4:39 | 1 and 10 @ 17 (17)... Josh Freeman (2-for-3 20 yds | 67%:77) passes complete to Danny Amendola for 10 yards.
4:05 | 1 and 10 @ 27 (27)... Bernard Pierce runs for 4 yards (1-4yds | 4 ave:5.2).


AFFL Jac/Min - 2nd quarter penalty

Danny Amendola returns the ball 9 yards.
14:26 | 1 and 10 @ 29 (29)... Penalty on Minnesota.
14:01 | 1 and 10 @ 29 (29)... Marshawn Lynch runs for 4 yards (3-12yds | 4 ave:4.4).


AFFL Stl/Det - 1st quarter sack

The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the -5, returned to 20.
9:30 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)...
9:30 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... St. Louis defense gets the sack!
9:25 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Matthew Stafford (4-for-5 57 yds | 80%:59) passes complete to A.J. Green for 12 yards.
8:54 | 1 and 10 @ 32 (32)... Brandon Bolden runs for 9 yards (1-9yds | 9 ave:1.7).

AFFL Buf/NYJ - 1st quarter penalty

The kick comes to Brandon Weeden at the 2, returned to 18.
10:28 | 1 and 10 @ 82 (82)...
10:28 | 1 and 10 @ 18 (82)... Penalty on Buffalo.
10:06 | 1 and 10 @ 18 (82)... Incomplete pass.

AFFL Buf/NYJ - 2nd quarter penalty

Jeremy Maclin returns the ball 2 yards.
10:53 | 1 and 10 @ 22 (22)... Penalty on NY Jets.
10:18 | 1 and 10 @ 22 (22)... Buffalo gets the interception

AFFL Buf/NYJ - 3rd quarter penalty

The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the 2, returned to 20.
14:53 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Penalty on NY Jets.
14:28 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Donald Brown runs for 7 yards (8-41yds | 5.1 ave:5.1).
14:05 | 2 and 3 @ 27 (27)... Ryan Tannehill runs for 3 yards (3-0yds | 0 ave:-0.5).

AFFL Sea/Ari - 1st quarter sack

0:34 | 4 and 8 @ 42 (42)... Chris Kluwe punts the ball 35 yards
DeSean Jackson returns the ball 0 yards.
0:14 | 1 and 10 @ 7 (7)... Seattle defense gets the sack!
0:03 | 1 and 10 @ 7 (7)... Jamaal Charles runs for 4 yards (3-10yds | 3.3 ave:5.2).

AFFL Sea/Ari - 2nd quarter sack

The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the 4, returned to 20.
7:43 | 1 and 10 @ 80 (80)...
7:43 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... Arizona defense gets the sack!
7:28 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... Jay Cutler (11-for-20 170 yds | 55%:57) passes complete to Devin Aromashodu for 17 yards.
7:01 | 1 and 10 @ 37 (63)... Jay Cutler (12-for-21 194 yds | 57%:57) passes complete to Brandon LaFell for 24 yards.



AFFL Sea/Ari - 4th quarter penalty

4:11 | 4 and 1 @ 42 (42)... Chris Jones punts the ball 58 yards Touchback
3:47 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... Penalty on Seattle.
3:27 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... Alfred Morris runs for 6 yards (8-26yds | 3.3 ave:3.3).
2:55 | 2 and 4 @ 26 (74)... Jay Cutler (25-for-44 359 yds | 57%:57) passes complete to Steve Smith for 5 yards.


AFFL Den/Pit - 3rd quarter penalty
8:35 | 1 and 10 @ 80 (80)...
8:35 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... Penalty on Pittsburgh.
8:01 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... Frank Gore runs for 2 yards (2-25yds | 12.5 ave:6).
7:27 | 2 and 8 @ 22 (78)... Anthony Allen runs for 2 yards (1-2yds | 2 ave:2.3).


AFFL Cin/Bal - 2nd quarter sack

2:18 | 3 and 2 @ 45 (55)... Incomplete pass.
2:05 | 4 and 2 @ 45 (55)... Sam Koch punts the ball 33 yards Andrew Hawkins returns the ball 3 yards.
1:43 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (85)... Baltimore defense gets the sack!
1:31 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (85)... Incomplete pass.
1:24 | 2 and 10 @ 15 (85)... Baltimore gets the interception!

AFFL SD/Oak - 1st quarter sack

The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the -1, returned to 20.
6:53 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)...
6:53 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... San Diego defense gets the sack!
6:45 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Isaac Redman runs for 4 yards (1-4yds | 4 ave:0.3).
6:24 | 2 and 6 @ 24 (24)... San Diego defense gets the sack!

AFFL SD/Oak - 2nd quarter sack

Brandon Tate returns the ball 12 yards.
1:33 | 1 and 10 @ 31 (31)... San Diego defense gets the sack!
1:26 | 1 and 10 @ 31 (31)... Incomplete pass.

AFFL SD/Oak - 4th quarter penalty

6:17 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Penalty on Oakland.
5:45 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Incomplete pass.
5:37 | 2 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Andy Dalton (15-for-33 130 yds | 45%:44) passes complete to Tony Moeaki for 18 yards.

[Ulrich82]

I don't know if it is just a parsing error in the wording being put out, or an actual error in the sim, but I noticed the yard marker on the kickoffs looks a little odd. Here is a sampling of some of the kickoffs in CFFL week 1 SF vs GB:

1.) The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the 2, returned to 20.
2.) The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the 5, returned to 20.
3.) The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback. The kick comes to at the -5, returned to 20.
4.) The kick comes to Aaron Rodgers at the 2, returned to 21.

The third one looks normal.

On the first two, the kick seems to be fielded before the end zone, but touchbacks are assigned. Maybe these are kickers where the ball bounces at the 2 or 5 yard line into the endzone? This would be unusual in a game.

On the fourth, Aaron Rodgers returned a kick 19 yards? Rodgers is not on GB's kick returner depth chart, so how did this happen?

[tino38]

On the fourth, Aaron Rodgers returned a kick 19 yards? Rodgers is not on GB's kick returner depth chart, so how did this happen?

This I would like to see in real life. He runs the ball quite a bit anyways might as well become a kickoff returner. Haha gave me a good laugh

[Goodell]

Thanks. I did tweak the kickoff code a bit with the intent of realistically having more touchbacks. Should not have it print out anything past that once determined to be a touchback so I'll track that down and adjust.

We added pulling in players beyond the depth chart so it won't be just one guy is the only returner possible now or nobody else can touch the ball who isn't in the depth chart as it was before. Adding the additional players into the game beyond the depth chart (for returns and runners and receivers) turned out to be more work than I thought. In cases where teams have other guys outside the depth chart with real stats (in a couple cases some great returns pulled in beyond the depth chart they wouldn't have gotten otherwise) it was as hoped, but in cases where guys outside the depth chart had no real game stats perhaps had some odd replacements at first as it was trying to pick between guys all with no stats in that area. I could exempt the QBs from that entirely, but for the most part players like Tebow and Kaepernick benefit from being able to be pulled into the game despite not being in the depth chart or starting so allowed it to look amongst QBs too for stats for guys off the depth chart to bring in and when everybody has zero it sometimes picks them. I didn't think I had it looking at them as possibilities for returners, though, as I was thinking more bringing QB rushing more into it additionally when I allowed it to check the QBs but I'll double-check that.

It required a lot of changes to bring in these other players not designated, which will be good I believe and not allow teams to tank quite so much intentionally or make up for a team forgetting to change their depth chart on an injured player, etc and makes it less work on me when the system can help bring guys into the system if they have game stats. So I think it will be good, and had wide support in GM voting this off-season, but will take a little time to perfect still. To be perfect on it, we still wouldn't have simmed week 1 until sometime next year, and I know people were getting anxious and I wanted to get the simming started myself. Having an odd name picked at random in some cases where no good real stat player available to be added wasn't a huge deal for me because it's just a random guy with default update but I know the names matter more for some and to be more realistic we'll adjust that over time but the computer doesn't really care about the individual names as we would so some trickiness to that.

In all the time for script changes, didn't have it where some teams could bring in guys with stats beyond the depth chart and other teams didn't bring players in. It had to be more standardized, at least for now until further tweaking to get up and going. Worked great in some cases for teams with a lot of depth and brining in those guys with real numbers additionally as hoped, but not as well in some cases without numbers. So we'll keep working on adjusting to avoid the more odd situations caused in that new functionality.

[Onyxgem]

:12 | 1 and 10 @ 49 (51)... Shonn Greene runs for 6 yards (18-70yds | 3.9 ave:3.9).
2:48 | 2 and 4 @ 45 (45)... Michael Bush runs for 0 yards (7-26yds | 3.7 ave:4.2).
2:26 | 3 and 4 @ 45 (45)... Incomplete pass.
2:17 | 4 and 4 @ 45 (45)... Going for it on 4th down... Shonn Greene picks up 2 yards.
Ball turned over on downs.

Not really an error, but something that needs to be fixed. Needing a TD that late in the game i don't really see why would be running 3 out of 4 plays here, especially 4th and 4...doesn't make any sense at all.

[Ulrich82]

Noticed something minor from week 1. Looks like a bookkeeping error:

CFFL Pit vs Den (week 1):
0:03 | 4 and 4 @ 5 (95)... Going for it on 4th down... pass complete to White for 8 yards!
TOUCHDOWN Denver!! Denver 17 to Pittsburgh 17

-TD is not assigned to any QB. The sim has Rivers throwing 1 TD and 1 INT. That 1 TD came in the second quarter.

From week 2:

SF vs Det (week 2): In third quarter, phantom penalty to start game winning drive:
3:58 | 1 and 10 @ 45 (45)... Penalty on Detroit.
3:35 | 1 and 10 @ 45 (45)... Incomplete pass.

-If the sim behaved exactly the same (admittedly, likely a poor assumption), with a 5 or 10 yard penalty, Detroit would not have converted for a first down. Not complaining. This game could have gone either way.

[Goodell]

I'll try to zero in on as many of those, but I think penalties come out fairly randomly (with some advantages toward the better graded teams and perhaps a little home advantage) since it's not real guys doing real things but system needs some other way of generating them periodically at times throughout the game for adding that realism, and if they don't print out right it's something to check into (so good to note) but have to treat a little like a ref picking up the flag or an after further review no penalty kind of thing we'd see in reality. I think the intent was to not make penalties a huge part of the results, but tilt them a little toward better grades to help ensure the best results going to the better teams as much as we can to rewarding that, but not have them pop up too much to be more important than the other factors.

[Royce R]

All the sack and penalty errors from week one were to start s drive Troy. May help you get to the bottom of it

[Strategist]

Noticed something minor from week 1. Looks like a bookkeeping error:

CFFL Pit vs Den (week 1):
0:03 | 4 and 4 @ 5 (95)... Going for it on 4th down... pass complete to White for 8 yards!
TOUCHDOWN Denver!! Denver 17 to Pittsburgh 17

-TD is not assigned to any QB. The sim has Rivers throwing 1 TD and 1 INT. That 1 TD came in the second quarter.
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Just a note that I saw looking at this. They were on the 5 but threw an 8 yard TD pass. I know it isn't a big deal just noticed it.