LTC figures

[tino38]

Here's a thought - what if we took the top 10 salaries of ALL players rated LOWER than the one receiving the LTC?

For lower rated players, that would result in a smaller pool but also should have smaller salaries.

For A+ players, they would be drawing from the entire pool of players at the position group.

I don't think we want to have certain positions having to deal with contracts given to like QB's. Some positions are always going to be paid ALOT more than other positions and when doing an LTC for a player i think we need to be only looking at their positions.

We would be. At least my understanding of this is it would be a +/- 2 on the players of the same position. Wouldn't be comparing QBs to LBs or RBs. That wouldn't work.

[Royce R]

Here's a thought - what if we took the top 10 salaries of ALL players rated LOWER than the one receiving the LTC?

For lower rated players, that would result in a smaller pool but also should have smaller salaries.

For A+ players, they would be drawing from the entire pool of players at the position group.

i like this idea by position.

[tino38]

Here's a thought - what if we took the top 10 salaries of ALL players rated LOWER than the one receiving the LTC?

For lower rated players, that would result in a smaller pool but also should have smaller salaries.

For A+ players, they would be drawing from the entire pool of players at the position group.

i like this idea by position.

Yeah I do to, only by position though. Otherwise nobody would use the LTC. Nobody will want to pay a CB QB money. It would have to be by position.

[Jared A]

Not plus or minus anything.


For an 88 LB it would be the highest LB's from 0-88

For a 99 HB it would be the highest HB's from 0-99 (basically all)

averaging the top 10 still, I would assume.


That way, the top of the tops don't cost more than the mid level guys.

[Royce R]

Not plus or minus anything.


For an 88 LB it would be the highest LB's from 0-88

For a 99 HB it would be the highest HB's from 0-99 (basically all)

averaging the top 10 still, I would assume.


That way, the top of the tops don't cost more than the mid level guys.

yes and i do believe that at least a 10% raise from current salary needs to stay in there as well.

[Ben C.]

Not plus or minus anything.


For an 88 LB it would be the highest LB's from 0-88

For a 99 HB it would be the highest HB's from 0-99 (basically all)

averaging the top 10 still, I would assume.


That way, the top of the tops don't cost more than the mid level guys.

yes and i do believe that at least a 10% raise from current salary needs to stay in there as well.

I agree with Jared but not Royce. Do we really need to have a 10% raise from current salary? What about all the players that have a bloated final year due to restructured contracts or backloaded deals?

I think as long as we have the top 10 requirement, it will be suitable.

[tino38]

Yeah I feel like the 10% raise may be unnecessary as well. If we already use the top 10 that may be enough.

[Onyxgem]

Yeah I feel like the 10% raise may be unnecessary as well. If we already use the top 10 that may be enough.

It would be interesting to see in some cases if even without the 10% if the contracts are reaching the same cost as a franchise or even more cause that would not be good IMHO.

[tino38]

Yeah I feel like the 10% raise may be unnecessary as well. If we already use the top 10 that may be enough.

It would be interesting to see in some cases if even without the 10% if the contracts are reaching the same cost as a franchise or even more cause that would not be good IMHO.

I agree that does make sense. If the LTC starts to become the same value as the franchise tag, then what is the point of having the franchise tag. If that is the case, then we potentially get rid of the franchise tag and just offer 2 LTCs?

[tino38]

Found an issue within this structure. For 2013 the non-exclusive franchise tag is $10,537,000. I have gone through the DFFL and found the top 10 paid WR's:
1) Larry Fitzgerald: $22,852,500
2) Sidney Rice: $18,166,667
3) Brandon Marshall: $16,500,000
4) Stevie Johnson: $12,925,000
5) Miles Austin: $12,750,000
6) Devin Hester: $11,857,523
7) Wes Welker: $11,750,000
8) Anquan Boldin: $10,290,000
9) Roddy White: $9,521,000
10) Brandon Lloyd: $8,500,000

This totals: $135,112,690-----> 135,112,690/10= $13,511,269

As the numbers for the 2013 season stand right now, New Orleans has Calvin Johnson. He is a 99 and the top rated WR. Taking those numbers if New Orleans chose to LTC Johnson he would have to pay $2,974,269 more per year than if he chose to just use the franchise tag. Shouldn't the LTC be friendly towards helping us keep a guy rather than hurting the chances of keeping a guy on his current team?