2013 Draft Date

What day do you prefer we start our college draft?

Sunday, April 28th (afternoon-evening)
27
57%
Monday, April 29th
9
19%
Saturday, May 4th
6
13%
Monday, May 6th
5
11%
Saturday, May 11th (Mothers Day May 12th)
0
No votes
Monday, May 13th
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 47

Smooth Glitch
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

Post by Smooth Glitch »

The current format in terms of time/duration does reflect some of the "realistic" element that many GM's appreciate so much about FanGM and make it the experience it is. I would have no issues with a round per day draft if the consensus voted it in but I also have noticed what I perceive to be the majority of picks seem to be selected very early in their time allotment and even in a lot of cases being made before their scheduled time even begins. This tells me that a lot of GM's wouldn't need more time or extra days to do their research. Maybe I am mistaken as it is a general observation. Once again however I stress I am for what the majority wants and would be fine with a round per day but I do really like the current format.
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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Smooth Glitch wrote:The current format in terms of time/duration does reflect some of the "realistic" element that many GM's appreciate so much about FanGM and make it the experience it is. I would have no issues with a round per day draft if the consensus voted it in but I also have noticed what I perceive to be the majority of picks seem to be selected very early in their time allotment and even in a lot of cases being made before their scheduled time even begins. This tells me that a lot of GM's wouldn't need more time or extra days to do their research. Maybe I am mistaken as it is a general observation. Once again however I stress I am for what the majority wants and would be fine with a round per day but I do really like the current format.
Until this year, it was a round per day, and after the first round it was 15 minutes per round.

Many complained it was too slow, so Troy gave us two rounds per day, and bumped it to 12 minute slots. Time wise there's very little difference really, but now a lot of people want it to go back to how it was.

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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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So sure maybe 20 guys can be on here all the time and want the draft fast but even if there is only 10 of us that are too busy to be on here all the time or have to work nights so we wake up around our picks. Shouldn't it be in the best interest for eveyone to have a slower draft? Is it a disadvantage for anyone to have a slower draft? I don't really see one. Where we have seen a faster one is a disadvantage for some.

My other point is what is the hurry?
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

Post by Ulrich82 »

I tend to agree that we should go back to a round a day. Actually, the issue I had was that I've been in a particularly demanding month at work which made my preparation more difficult. While I understand people saying they can't spend a week on this, it seems to be that putting in smaller amounts of time over 7 days is much better than larger chunks to get in two round per day. Also, while the draft queue is great, I like to reassess my queue after each pick. I might have 3 RBs at the top hoping to get one. If I have two picks in a round though, I don't necessarily want to take two RBs. With teams generally having 1 pick per round and 1 round per day, you can take 20 minutes each day to reset your queue for the next round. Its harder to queue players when there are 30 picks between the two I have to make on a given day.
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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I don't feel the need to cram the draft into as few days as possible. Having a bit of time to reassess in between rounds is good from my point of view, and having 2 a day makes that difficult.

I also don't see the advantage in starting the draft as immediately after the NFL draft as possible. It's not like we have a whole lot to do after our draft is finished :cry: As someone mentioned above, we have another layer of variables to deal with when assessing players. Real teams 'just' have to worry about talent, potential etc. We also have to think about a player's opportunity in the team he was drafted to and how that affects his value. I'd be quite happy with starting our draft a week after the real thing. By then we'd have an indication as to how most players fit into their new team's plans.

Edit: To go back to where this all started, I think an email notification when one is on the clock/on deck would be handy. And hey, we could make it opt-in so that it doesn't disturb anyone who dislikes it ;)
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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Once again, all valid points. I don't disagree with everything you are saying. I even voted to start later and voted to have kept it similar to what is was when it was a round per day. I like the format currently too but what we are saying is, it is the way it is because it was voted upon and as a result the draft is at its current format. In the case of draft start time it was overwhelming to start right after draft. Respect the vote.
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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Zapotek wrote:As someone mentioned above, we have another layer of variables to deal with when assessing players. Real teams 'just' have to worry about talent, potential etc. We also have to think about a player's opportunity in the team he was drafted to and how that affects his value. I'd be quite happy with starting our draft a week after the real thing. By then we'd have an indication as to how most players fit into their new team's plans.
This! As it is both a fantasy and simulation game. I'm more likely to draft an undrafted player late knowing he has already signed with a team.

Also, thanks for the responses reguarding the salary cap and minimums. I understand the complications of adjusting to such a system.
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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Smooth Glitch wrote:Once again, all valid points. I don't disagree with everything you are saying. I even voted to start later and voted to have kept it similar to what is was when it was a round per day. I like the format currently too but what we are saying is, it is the way it is because it was voted upon and as a result the draft is at its current format. In the case of draft start time it was overwhelming to start right after draft. Respect the vote.
But this vote isnt like most other rule votes. If it is a disadvantage to some of the owners if we have a fast draft but if we slowed it down then it would be a disadvantage to noone. Then why should we not slow it down?

As for when it starts. I can see why someone can say that you would have more information but in that case all of us have access to the same info so no one has an advantage one way or another.
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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Strategist wrote:So sure maybe 20 guys can be on here all the time and want the draft fast but even if there is only 10 of us that are too busy to be on here all the time or have to work nights so we wake up around our picks. Shouldn't it be in the best interest for eveyone to have a slower draft? Is it a disadvantage for anyone to have a slower draft? I don't really see one. Where we have seen a faster one is a disadvantage for some.

My other point is what is the hurry?
As I mentioned before, for me personally its not about speed. Its about dedicating an entire week to the draft, which I can't do without missing the majority of my picks live.

Sure, cramming 2 rounds into a single day might be a bit much, but under this year's format, I managed to take one day off (I have a flex schedule), and b/c of that I got through the first 3 rounds making every pick live.

If we were under the old format, my entire 3rd round would've been auto picked, and I wouldn't have been happy about it.

Beyond that, the majority of the people who voted to start the draft immediately after, and have a quicker draft aren't the ones speaking up now for whatever reason, but a lot of these discussions often have the same participants involved when many are just voting without ever posting.

I'm not saying there's a right or wrong answer, but its much easier for me personally to commit 1-2 days towards the most important rounds of the draft, then watch this stretched out over 7 days. That doesn't improve my ability to draft live.

I already know that every year I simply can't be here for those valuable mid to late rounds live, and the last thing I want is for it to begin cutting into the 3rd round too.
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Re: 2013 Draft Date

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I use my phone for probably 80% of my picks, so it doesn't really matter where I am, unless there is no service. :| One thing about that is website navigation and communication are a lot slower than if I was on a comp.
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