Carolina 17 to Denver 31
STATISTICS:
Rushing: Carolina - Conner: 15 for 42 yards (2.8 ave, 0 TD), Achane: 4 for 54 yards (13.5 ave, 1 TD), McLaughlin: 1 for 4 yards (4 ave, 0 TD), Davis: 0 for 0 yards (NAN ave, 0 TD), Burrow: 4 for 19 yards (0 TD)
Denver - Spears:14 for 40 yards (2.9 ave, 1 TD), Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE :4 for 10 yards (2.5 ave, 0 TD), Prentice:3 for 5 yards (1.7 ave, 0 TD), Mingo:2 for 4 yards (2 ave, 0 TD), Jackson: 9 for 49 yards (0 TD), Rudolph: 2 for 19 yards (0 TD)
Passing: Carolina - Burrow: 12-for-17, 177 yards, 1 TD / 1 INT
Denver - Jackson: 22-for-34, 297 yards, 3 TD / 0 INT
Receptions: Carolina - Pittman:0-0yds, Ridley:8-133yds, Tolbert:0-0yds, Jefferson:0-0yards, Westbrook-Ikhine:1-15yards, Parkinson:0-0yds, Hooper:0-0yards, Conner:0-0yds, Achane:3-29yards, McLaughlin:0-0yards, Davis:0-0yards
Denver - Adams:4-59yards, Worthy:5-57yds, Kirk:3-65yards, Meyers:6-80yds, Saubert:1-8yds, Goedert:0-0yards, Thomas:1-8yds, Spears:1-14yards, Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE :1-6yds, Prentice:0-0yards, Mingo:0-0yards
Kick Returns: Carolina - Achane: 1 for 16 yards (16 ave), Pierce: 0 for 0 yards (NAN ave)
Denver - Kirk: 1 for 18 yards (18 ave), Adams: 0 for 0 yards (NAN ave)
Punt Returns: Carolina - Cowing: 4 for 43 yards (11 ave), Hooper: 0 for 0 yards (NAN ave)
Denver - Kirk: 4 for 7 yards (2 ave), Adams: 0 for 0 yards (NAN ave)
Kickers: Carolina - Joseph: 1-for-1; Denver - Elliott: 1-for-1
Punters: Carolina - Scott: 4-48 ave. (in20:3, blocks:0)
Denver - Dickson: 4-61 ave. (in20:0, blocks:0)
PLAY-BY-PLAY:
Welcome to Denver. Following the coin toss, Carolina will receive the ball first.
The kick comes to De'von Achane at the 2, returned to 18.
14:52 | 1 and 10 @ 82 (82)... James Conner runs for 4 yards (1-4yds |
4 ave:2.8).
14:13 | 2 and 6 @ 22 (78)... Denver defense gets the sack!
13:58 | 3 and 16 @ 12 (88)... Joe Burrow (1-for-1 10 yds | 100%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 10 yards.
13:14 | 4 and 6 @ 22 (78)... JK Scott punts the ball 60 yards (60:57)
Christian Kirk returns the ball 2 yards.
12:46 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Penalty on Denver.
12:46 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (20)... Lamar Jackson (1-for-1 17 yds | 100%:64) passes complete to Christian Kirk for 17 yards.
12:10 | 1 and 10 @ 37 (37)... Incomplete pass.
11:59 | 2 and 10 @ 37 (37)... Carolina defense gets the sack!
11:44 | 3 and 11 @ 36 (36)... Lamar Jackson (2-for-3 28 yds | 67%:64) passes complete to Jakobi Meyers for 11 yards.
10:59 | 1 and 10 @ 47 (47)... Tyjae Spears runs for 6 yards (1-6yds |
6 ave:2.7).
10:33 | 2 and 4 @ 47 (53)... Incomplete pass.
10:28 | 3 and 4 @ 47 (53)... Lamar Jackson (3-for-5 41 yds | 60%:64) passes complete to Davante Adams for 13 yards.
9:59 | 1 and 10 @ 34 (66)... Lamar Jackson (4-for-6 75 yds | 67%:64) passes complete to Christian Kirk for 34 yards.
TOUCHDOWN Denver!! Denver 7 to Carolina 0
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
9:09 | 1 and 10 @ 70 (70)...
9:09 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (70)... James Conner runs for 0 yards (2-4yds |
2 ave:2.8).
8:36 | 2 and 10 @ 30 (70)... Incomplete pass.
8:23 | 3 and 10 @ 30 (70)... Joe Burrow (2-for-3 20 yds | 67%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 10 yards.
7:49 | 1 and 10 @ 40 (60)... De'von Achane runs for 7 yards (1-7yds |
7 ave:9.8).
7:09 | 2 and 3 @ 47 (53)... Carolina needs to call a TIMEOUT (2 left). Jaleel McLaughlin runs for 4 yards (1-4yds |
4 ave:6).
6:35 | 1 and 10 @ 49 (49)... James Conner runs for 4 yards (3-8yds |
2.7 ave:2.8).
5:55 | 2 and 6 @ 45 (45)... De'von Achane runs for 45 yards (2-52yds |
26 ave:9.8).
TOUCHDOWN Carolina!! Carolina 7 to Denver 7
The kick comes to Christian Kirk at the -3, returned to 15.
5:05 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (15)...
5:05 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (15)... Tyjae Spears runs for -1 yards (2-5yds |
2.5 ave:2.7).
4:20 | 2 and 11 @ 14 (14)... Carolina defense gets the sack!
4:15 | 3 and 13 @ 12 (12)... Lamar Jackson (5-for-7 87 yds | 71%:64) passes complete to Davante Adams for 12 yards.
3:40 | 4 and 1 @ 24 (24)... Michael Dickson punts the ball 65 yards (65:61)
Jacob Cowing returns the ball 12 yards.
3:13 | 1 and 10 @ 23 (77)... James Conner runs for 5 yards (4-13yds |
3.3 ave:2.8).
2:36 | 2 and 5 @ 28 (72)... De'von Achane runs for -2 yards (3-50yds |
16.7 ave:9.8).
2:11 | 3 and 7 @ 26 (74)... Joe Burrow (3-for-4 31 yds | 75%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 11 yards.
1:22 | 1 and 10 @ 37 (63)... James Conner runs for 0 yards (5-13yds |
2.6 ave:2.8).
0:57 | 2 and 10 @ 37 (63)... De'von Achane runs for 4 yards (4-54yds |
13.5 ave:9.8).
0:18 | 3 and 6 @ 41 (59)... Incomplete pass.
0:06 | 4 and 6 @ 41 (59)... JK Scott punts the ball 47 yards (53.5:57)
Christian Kirk returns the ball 4 yards.
0:00 | 1 and 10 @ 16 (16)...
End of Quarter 1 (Carolina 7 to Denver 7)
Incomplete pass.
14:51 | 2 and 10 @ 16 (16)... Lamar Jackson (6-for-9 105 yds | 67%:64) passes complete to Jakobi Meyers for 18 yards.
14:07 | 1 and 10 @ 34 (34)... Incomplete pass.
14:02 | 2 and 10 @ 34 (34)... Lamar Jackson runs for 5 yards (1-5yds | 5 ave:5.8).
13:37 | 3 and 5 @ 39 (39)... Lamar Jackson (7-for-11 121 yds | 64%:64) passes complete to Xavier Worthy for 16 yards.
13:06 | 1 and 10 @ 45 (55)... Tyjae Spears runs for 5 yards (3-10yds |
3.3 ave:2.7).
12:34 | 2 and 5 @ 40 (60)... Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE runs for 4 yards (1-4yds |
4 ave:2.7).
12:02 | 3 and 1 @ 36 (64)... Lamar Jackson runs for 23 yards (2-28yds | 14 ave:5.8).
11:20 | 1 and 10 @ 13 (87)... Tyjae Spears runs for 1 yards (4-11yds |
2.8 ave:2.7).
10:37 | 2 and 9 @ 12 (88)... Lamar Jackson runs for 0 yards (3-28yds | 9.3 ave:5.8).
9:52 | 3 and 9 @ 12 (88)... Jackson throws a 12 yard TOUCHDOWN to Xavier Worthy!
TOUCHDOWN Denver!! Denver 14 to Carolina 7
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
9:35 | 1 and 10 @ 70 (70)...
9:35 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (70)... James Conner runs for 17 yards (6-30yds |
5 ave:2.8).
8:53 | 1 and 10 @ 47 (53)... James Conner runs for -3 yards (7-27yds |
3.9 ave:2.8).
8:27 | 2 and 13 @ 44 (56)... Joe Burrow (4-for-6 42 yds | 67%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 11 yards.
7:56 | 3 and 2 @ 45 (45)... Joe Burrow runs for 8 yards (1-8yds | 8 ave:5).
7:23 | 1 and 10 @ 37 (37)... Joe Burrow (5-for-7 53 yds | 71%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 11 yards.
6:47 | 1 and 10 @ 26 (26)... James Conner runs for 0 yards (8-27yds |
3.4 ave:2.8).
6:11 | 2 and 10 @ 26 (26)... Incomplete pass.
6:05 | 3 and 10 @ 26 (26)... Denver defense gets the sack!
5:54 | 4 and 11 @ 27 (27)...
Here's a 44 fieldgoal attempt... GOOD! 10 to 14
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
5:45 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (30)... Tyjae Spears runs for -2 yards (5-9yds |
1.8 ave:2.7).
5:16 | 2 and 12 @ 28 (28)... Lamar Jackson runs for 3 yards (4-31yds | 7.8 ave:5.8).
4:48 | 3 and 9 @ 31 (31)... Carolina defense gets the sack!
4:34 | 4 and 13 @ 27 (27)... Michael Dickson punts the ball 59 yards (62:61)
Jacob Cowing returns the ball 14 yards.
4:13 | 1 and 10 @ 28 (72)... James Conner runs for -1 yards (9-26yds |
2.9 ave:2.8).
3:46 | 2 and 11 @ 27 (73)... Joe Burrow (6-for-9 62 yds | 67%:71) passes complete to De'von Achane for 9 yards.
3:14 | 3 and 2 @ 36 (64)... Joe Burrow runs for -1 yards (2-7yds | 3.5 ave:5).
2:29 | 4 and 3 @ 35 (65)... JK Scott punts the ball 60 yards (55.7:57)
Christian Kirk returns the ball 0 yards.
2:08 | 1 and 10 @ 5 (5)... Tyjae Spears runs for 4 yards (6-13yds |
2.2 ave:2.7).
1:29 | 2 and 6 @ 9 (9)... Carolina defense gets the sack!
1:24 | 3 and 10 @ 5 (5)... Lamar Jackson (9-for-13 142 yds | 69%:64) passes complete to Jakobi Meyers for 9 yards.
0:35 | 4 and 1 @ 14 (14)... Michael Dickson punts the ball 56 yards (60:61)
Jacob Cowing returns the ball 8 yards.
0:09 | 1 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Joe Burrow (7-for-10 71 yds | 70%:71) passes complete to De'von Achane for 9 yards.
0:00 | 2 and 1 @ 47 (53)...
End of Quarter 2 (Carolina 10 to Denver 14)
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
14:54 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (30)... Incomplete pass.
14:42 | 2 and 10 @ 30 (30)... Adam - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE - Prentice runs for 2 yards (1-2yds |
2 ave:2.2).
14:11 | 3 and 8 @ 32 (32)... Lamar Jackson (10-for-15 161 yds | 67%:64) passes complete to Davante Adams for 19 yards.
13:25 | 1 and 10 @ 49 (51)... Tyjae Spears runs for 6 yards (7-19yds |
2.7 ave:2.7).
12:46 | 2 and 4 @ 43 (57)... Lamar Jackson runs for 5 yards (5-36yds | 7.2 ave:5.8).
12:19 | 1 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Tyjae Spears runs for -1 yards (8-18yds |
2.3 ave:2.7).
11:40 | 2 and 11 @ 39 (61)... Lamar Jackson runs for 3 yards (6-39yds | 6.5 ave:5.8).
10:58 | 3 and 8 @ 36 (64)... Incomplete pass.
10:52 | 4 and 8 @ 36 (64)...
Here's a 53 fieldgoal attempt... GOOD! 17 to 10
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
10:47 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (70)... James Conner runs for 1 yards (10-27yds |
2.7 ave:2.8).
10:15 | 2 and 9 @ 31 (69)... Calvin Ridley FUMBLES! Denver recovers! On a completion from Joe Burrow (8-for-11 85 yds | 73%:71) to Calvin Ridley for 14 yards prior to the hit that knocked the ball free.
9:42 | 1 and 10 @ (55)...
9:42 | 1 and 10 @ 45 (55)... Penalty on Denver.
9:42 | 1 and 10 @ 45 (55)... Tyjae Spears runs for 6 yards (9-24yds |
2.7 ave:2.7).
9:11 | 2 and 4 @ 39 (61)... Lamar Jackson runs for 1 yards (7-40yds | 5.7 ave:5.8).
8:42 | 3 and 3 @ 38 (62)... Lamar Jackson (11-for-17 169 yds | 65%:64) passes complete to Xavier Worthy for 8 yards.
8:06 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (70)... Tyjae Spears runs for 3 yards (10-27yds |
2.7 ave:2.7).
7:30 | 2 and 7 @ 27 (73)... Lamar Jackson runs for 4 yards (8-44yds | 5.5 ave:5.8).
6:53 | 3 and 3 @ 23 (77)... Jackson throws a 23 yard TOUCHDOWN to Jakobi Meyers!
TOUCHDOWN Denver!! Denver 24 to Carolina 10
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
6:37 | 1 and 10 @ 70 (70)...
6:37 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (70)... James Conner runs for 4 yards (11-31yds |
2.8 ave:2.8).
6:12 | 2 and 6 @ 34 (66)... Carolina needs to call a TIMEOUT (2 left). Incomplete pass.
6:06 | 3 and 6 @ 34 (66)... Joe Burrow (9-for-13 99 yds | 69%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 14 yards.
5:34 | 1 and 10 @ 48 (52)... James Conner runs for -2 yards (12-29yds |
2.4 ave:2.8).
5:09 | 2 and 12 @ 46 (54)... Joe Burrow (10-for-14 110 yds | 71%:71) passes complete to De'von Achane for 11 yards.
4:38 | 3 and 1 @ 43 (43)... Joe Burrow runs for 5 yards (3-12yds | 4 ave:5).
4:10 | 1 and 10 @ 38 (38)... Penalty on Carolina.
4:10 | 1 and 20 @ 48 (48)... James Conner runs for 7 yards (13-36yds |
2.8 ave:2.8).
3:33 | 2 and 13 @ 41 (41)... Joe Burrow runs for 7 yards (4-19yds | 4.8 ave:5).
3:00 | 3 and 6 @ 34 (34)... Denver defense gets the sack!
2:47 | 4 and 11 @ 39 (39)... JK Scott punts the ball 25 yards (48:57)
Christian Kirk returns the ball 1 yards.
2:30 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (15)... Tyjae Spears runs for 3 yards (11-30yds |
2.7 ave:2.7).
1:57 | 2 and 7 @ 18 (18)... Lamar Jackson runs for 5 yards (9-49yds | 5.4 ave:5.8).
1:27 | 3 and 2 @ 23 (23)... Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE runs for 1 yards (2-5yds |
2.5 ave:2.7).
0:59 | 4 and 1 @ 24 (24)... Michael Dickson punts the ball 65 yards (61.3:61)
Jacob Cowing returns the ball 9 yards.
0:29 | 1 and 10 @ 20 (80)... James Conner runs for 3 yards (14-39yds |
2.8 ave:2.8).
0:00 | 2 and 7 @ 23 (77)...
End of Quarter 3 (Carolina 10 to Denver 24)
Denver gets the interception!
14:45 | 1 and 10 @ 29 (29)... Penalty on Denver.
14:45 | 1 and 10 @ 29 (29)... Jonathan Mingo runs for 2 yards (1-2yds |
2 ave:2.2).
14:03 | 2 and 8 @ 31 (31)... Incomplete pass.
13:56 | 3 and 8 @ 31 (31)... Lamar Jackson (13-for-20 202 yds | 65%:64) passes complete to Jakobi Meyers for 10 yards.
13:28 | 1 and 10 @ 41 (41)... Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE runs for 3 yards (3-8yds |
2.7 ave:2.7).
12:53 | 2 and 7 @ 44 (44)... Lamar Jackson (14-for-21 217 yds | 67%:64) passes complete to Davante Adams for 15 yards.
12:28 | 1 and 10 @ 41 (59)... Adam - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE - Prentice runs for 2 yards (2-4yds |
2 ave:2.2).
11:47 | 2 and 8 @ 39 (61)... Incomplete pass.
11:35 | 3 and 8 @ 39 (61)... Lamar Jackson (15-for-23 228 yds | 65%:64) passes complete to Xavier Worthy for 11 yards.
10:47 | 1 and 10 @ 28 (72)... Tyjae Spears runs for -1 yards (12-29yds |
2.4 ave:2.7).
10:08 | 2 and 11 @ 29 (71)... Incomplete pass.
9:57 | 3 and 11 @ 29 (71)... Lamar Jackson (16-for-25 242 yds | 64%:64) passes complete to Christian Kirk for 14 yards.
9:08 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (85)... Tyjae Spears runs for 6 yards (13-35yds |
2.7 ave:2.7).
8:26 | 2 and 4 @ 9 (91)... Penalty on Denver.
8:26 | 2 and 14 @ 19 (81)... Lamar Jackson (17-for-26 256 yds | 65%:64) passes complete to Tyjae Spears for 14 yards.
7:52 | 1 and 5 @ 5 (95)... Spears runs 5 yards for a TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN Denver!! Denver 31 to Carolina 10
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
7:37 | 1 and 10 @ 70 (70)...
7:37 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (70)... James Conner runs for 3 yards (15-42yds |
2.8 ave:2.8).
6:55 | 2 and 7 @ 33 (67)... Incomplete pass.
6:45 | 3 and 7 @ 33 (67)... Joe Burrow (11-for-16 162 yds | 69%:71) passes complete to Calvin Ridley for 52 yards.
6:19 | 1 and 10 @ 15 (15)... Burrow throws a 15 yard TOUCHDOWN to Nick Westbrook-Ikhine!
TOUCHDOWN Carolina!! Carolina 17 to Denver 31
The kickoff goes deep into the endzone for a touchback.
6:03 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (30)...
6:03 | 1 and 10 @ 30 (30)... Jonathan Mingo runs for 2 yards (2-4yds |
2 ave:2.2).
5:30 | 2 and 8 @ 32 (32)... Incomplete pass.
5:24 | 3 and 8 @ 32 (32)... Lamar Jackson (18-for-28 265 yds | 64%:64) passes complete to Jakobi Meyers for 9 yards.
4:54 | 1 and 10 @ 41 (41)... Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE runs for 2 yards (4-10yds |
2.5 ave:2).
4:27 | 2 and 8 @ 43 (43)... Incomplete pass.
4:21 | 3 and 8 @ 43 (43)... Lamar Jackson (19-for-30 275 yds | 63%:64) passes complete to Xavier Worthy for 10 yards.
3:38 | 1 and 10 @ 47 (53)... Mason Rudolph runs for 14 yards (1-14yds | 14 ave:7.3).
2:50 | 1 and 10 @ 33 (67)... Lamar Jackson (20-for-31 283 yds | 65%:64) passes complete to Eric Saubert for 8 yards. TWO-MINUTE WARNING
2:00 | 2 and 2 @ 25 (75)... Incomplete pass.
1:14 | 3 and 2 @ 25 (75)... Lamar Jackson (21-for-33 291 yds | 64%:64) passes complete to Ian - INJURED - INJURED Thomas for 8 yards.
0:23 | 1 and 10 @ 17 (83)... Adam - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE - Prentice runs for 1 yards (3-5yds |
1.7 ave:2). TIMEOUT Carolina (1 left)
0:16 | 2 and 9 @ 16 (84)... Mason Rudolph runs for 5 yards (2-19yds | 9.5 ave:7.3). TIMEOUT Carolina (0 left)
0:09 | 3 and 4 @ 11 (89)... Lamar Jackson (22-for-34 297 yds | 65%:64) passes complete to Backup Player - INELIGIBLE - INELIGIBLE for 6 yards.
0:00 | 1 and 5 @ 5 (95)...
End of Quarter 4 (Carolina 17 to Denver 31)
CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS: ADJUSTMENTS TO WEEKLY UPDATE STATS
Carolina Offensive Line Grade (5.9) vs. Denver Front Seven (5.8) = 0.1 in the trenches
Denver Offensive Line (6) vs. Carolina Front Seven (6.3) = -0.3 adjustments to running averages
Carolina QB Completion % Impacts (x.1): WR (5.8) + OL (5.9) - Denver F7 (5.8) - SEC (5.8) = 0.01
Denver QB Completion % Impacts (x.1): WR (6.4) + OL (6) - Carolina F7 (6.3) - SEC (5.8) = 0.03
These adjustments will not always apply completely, such as in cases where QBs have high completion percentages already and get more yard rewards for strong adjustments instead and smaller (7%) percentage boost. Max 15%. WR collective grades increase .5 for 25+ catches in a week IRL in updates. Max OL/F7 difference for RB averages +/- 1.5yd ave.
Carolina QB1: update 26-for-37 (70%, 0.01 adj) 234-yds (9 ypc) 1/1 | SIM: 12-for-17 (71%) 177-yds (14.8 ypc), 1 TD / 1 INT
Denver QB1 update :23-for-38 (61%, 0.03 adj) 289-yds (12.6 ypc) 2/0 | SIM: 22-for-34 (65%) 297-yds (13.5 ypc), 3 TD / 0 INT
Carolina RB1: 20-53 (2.8 adj) | SIM: 15-42 (2.8 ave) ; RB2: 10-97 (9.8 adj) | SIM: 4-54 (13.5 ave) ; RB3: 8-47 (6 adj) | SIM: 1-4 (4 ave) ; RB4: 6-29 (4.9 adj) | SIM: 0-0 (NAN ave)
Denver RB1: 10-30 (2.7 adj) | SIM: 14-40 (2.9 ave) ; RB2: 4-12 (2.7 adj) | SIM: 4-10 (2.5 ave) ; RB3: 2-5 (2.2 adj) | SIM: 3-5 (1.7 ave) ; RB4: 2-5 (2.2 adj) | SIM: 2-4 (2 ave)
Carolina WR1: 1-16 (16) | S: 0-0yds (NAN) ; WR2: 10-143 (14.3) | S: 8-133yds (16.6) ; WR3: 3-44 (14.7) | S: 0-0yds (NAN) ; WR4: 4-62 (15.5) | S: 0-0yds (NAN) ; WR5: 2-39 (19.5) | S: 1-15yds (15) ; TE1: 2-17 (8.5) | S: 0-0yds (NAN) ; TE2: - (NAN) | S: 0-0yds (NAN)
Denver WR1: 4-54 (13.5) | S: 4-59yds (14.8) ; WR2: 4-37 (9.3) | S: 5-57yds (11.4) ; WR3: 2-59 (29.5) | S: 3-65yds (21.7) ; WR4: 6-52 (8.7) | S: 6-80yds (13.3) ; WR5: 1-0 (0) | S: 1-8yds (8) ; TE1: 1-0 (0) | S: 0-0yds (NAN) ; TE2: - (NAN) | S: 1-8yds (8)
RB averages may shift in the game when they use up their weekly update carries, or if any unused TDs later in the game. WR and QB averages per completion are split between both player projections.