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with regards to LTC's are we just taking the average of the top 10 players at the position. Because david harris is being paid an absurd 22 million dollars and skews the number. In all likelihood he will be cut anyways as who is going to pay a player 22 million dollars who is rated 84 so will that number change if/when he is cut?

The i beleive LTCs should be based off their 2012 salary not their 2013 salary

gmen43 wrote:with regards to LTC's are we just taking the average of the top 10 players at the position. Because david harris is being paid an absurd 22 million dollars and skews the number. In all likelihood he will be cut anyways as who is going to pay a player 22 million dollars who is rated 84 so will that number change if/when he is cut?

If we're talking CFFL, he is a free agent already and got that salary last year. The LTC looks at last year's actually paid salaries (not salaries this year that may change or get cut, etc.) but actual salaries paid last year that don't change because in the past. That deal not even a restructured one, just how it was setup as backloaded and player played last year for that amount.

The LTC system may never be exactly perfect until we have real people pose as agents for the sim players with human element... that's not going to happen. We'll keep making tweaks as we go as we can into the future.

However, stuff like this happens in reality too.

Teams get pissed off if some over aggressive team goes outside the box being hugely desperate to way overpay and change the market for players at a certain position. If someone gets overpaid in reality, it impacts the franchise tag prices in reality and general market for players in that position. It's okay for their teams and our teams to not like it if it impacts them directly, but it happens.

I think for some of the remaining extreme cases with odd circumstances due to fake money contracts, it's almost like some of the real case studies you hear about in reality. Some real player or his agent get too prideful or think too highly of their worth and are completely unrealistic about their demands to sign an extension and not hit free agency. They may say either pay me absurdly like some of the others at my position were paid last year or I'm going to see what other teams will pay me on the open market. Agent issues and value disagreements hit real teams all the time. Real teams may disagree with that a particular position should be paid on the market or curse other teams in the leauge who value those positions differnetly than they do and wreck the market somewhat. But it happens. Either have to want that player badly enough to pay in an over-inflated market for that position and higher agent demands, or have to use one of the other almost limitless advantages in retaining the player for less if you think he'd get less on the open market in which case you have unlimted bidding rights to retain them for less than they asked for on LTC.

I have two questions re: LTC.

1. Is our year the football calendar? Meaning, if I sign a player to an LTC on January 1, 2014, can I sign another on August 1, 2014?

2. If I sign a player before the season begins on their last contracted year, does the LTC supersede the last year of the contract or does the LTC begin when the current contract ends?

JonC wrote:I have two questions re: LTC.

1. Is our year the football calendar? Meaning, if I sign a player to an LTC on January 1, 2014, can I sign another on August 1, 2014?

2. If I sign a player before the season begins on their last contracted year, does the LTC supersede the last year of the contract or does the LTC begin when the current contract ends?

It's a football season year. So from March to March. If you hadn't used a LTC all year yet, you could use it still in January. Then you'd get a new LTC when we started up a new league year in March again. If anyone plans on waiting long, though, don't forget we'll freeze rosters on March 1st each year so if you don't do it by then you just won't have used any in that season (no carry over LTCs to next year).

For players with one year left, I'll have to double check for sure as there was some complications with that and I haven't done one of those myself yet with my team and it's been a year since I put that in, but I believe we have them rip up the current contract and just start the new contract at the time of signing and over-write that next year salary under the old deal.

Goodell wrote:

JonC wrote:I have two questions re: LTC.

1. Is our year the football calendar? Meaning, if I sign a player to an LTC on January 1, 2014, can I sign another on August 1, 2014?

2. If I sign a player before the season begins on their last contracted year, does the LTC supersede the last year of the contract or does the LTC begin when the current contract ends?

It's a football season year. So from March to March. If you hadn't used a LTC all year yet, you could use it still in January. Then you'd get a new LTC when we started up a new league year in March again. If anyone plans on waiting long, though, don't forget we'll freeze rosters on March 1st each year so if you don't do it by then you just won't have used any in that season (no carry over LTCs to next year).

For players with one year left, I'll have to double check for sure as there was some complications with that and I haven't done one of those myself yet with my team and it's been a year since I put that in, but I believe we have them rip up the current contract and just start the new contract at the time of signing and over-write that next year salary under the old deal.

I can see it both ways, for sure. I have a couple guys I'm considering signing to an LTC, but I don't want to waste their last cost controlled year either when it's likely their LTC salary won't increase much at all by waiting until they are a pending UFA.

JonC wrote:

Goodell wrote:

JonC wrote:I have two questions re: LTC.

1. Is our year the football calendar? Meaning, if I sign a player to an LTC on January 1, 2014, can I sign another on August 1, 2014?

2. If I sign a player before the season begins on their last contracted year, does the LTC supersede the last year of the contract or does the LTC begin when the current contract ends?

It's a football season year. So from March to March. If you hadn't used a LTC all year yet, you could use it still in January. Then you'd get a new LTC when we started up a new league year in March again. If anyone plans on waiting long, though, don't forget we'll freeze rosters on March 1st each year so if you don't do it by then you just won't have used any in that season (no carry over LTCs to next year).

For players with one year left, I'll have to double check for sure as there was some complications with that and I haven't done one of those myself yet with my team and it's been a year since I put that in, but I believe we have them rip up the current contract and just start the new contract at the time of signing and over-write that next year salary under the old deal.

I can see it both ways, for sure. I have a couple guys I'm considering signing to an LTC, but I don't want to waste their last cost controlled year either when it's likely their LTC salary won't increase much at all by waiting until they are a pending UFA.

It rips up the last year. That is what it did w/ Jared Cook for me last year.

Before I make my LTC decision I was wondering if we were going to change the formula at all on how we calculated it.

Strategist wrote:Before I make my LTC decision I was wondering if we were going to change the formula at all on how we calculated it.

We changed it already from last year prior to unlocking that tool. Last year we just did the top salaries within a small +/- 2 window, and this year we're expanding the window to bring in more grades for anyone in the top 10 salaries at that position below +2 grade. There wouldn't be any changes to the way we do that until next year's rules discussions.

Ok thanks.